Health Info

Kristy,
My husband was here when the last one went through and it was a
lesser category as Ivan...said it defistated Anniston/Oxford area
and electriciy was out for day's. So he's out looking to
borrow/rent cheap a generator...so far no luck. Money is alittle
light in our pockets after the hospital co-pay. I don't want to
leave our home but may have to if it gets really bad...we live in a
doublewide on several acres amongst hills which I would think helps
some for protection. I hate not being able to help with picking up
and preparing since most weigh's more than a milk jug...LOL!!!
Big hugs, Linda in Al.

Dora,
I wish you would have just gone "no mail" and checked in so often
with them before leaving. Besides this great group, the other can
help too. That is why I am "no mail" and just visit the sites to
learn and say my piece.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

I joined two other groups yesterday. I have been getting their emails
as well. I guess that I am so used to and enjoy you guys that they just
don't seem like the family that you are. I am taken myself off those
and am just going to stay with you guys. Nothing against those groups,
but you guys are the best!!! Thanks for putting up with me.
Dora in Tennessee
Open/Lap RNY 9/20/04
Vanderbilt Hospital

Dora, there is no "putting" up with you, you are a joy and inspiration. I
love reading your posts. I'm so excited for you, your day is almost here. Take
care girlfriend and have a wonderful day!!!!
Laurette
4/23/04 open rny
309/290/231/150
St. Vincent Charity
Cleveland, Ohio

Hi Alana: I really feel that some in a very small quantity is not bad but I
stick to chicken breast files, and chicken fingers. I am 2 years out and have
lost almost 200 lbs. I am still in the 300's but I started out at 516 lbs. I
know my answer is't what everyone should do but for me it was ok.I always get
those that do not have skin on them.I too have a hard time staying away from all
fried foods but I am doing pretty well.I feel it is a choice rather than an
absolute no no. Amy I hope this helps you. Please write me if you would like.I
would like to talk to you.
Sheryl Miller
Alana <lanagurrl3@...
Agreed Amy. Should have been over and done with before all this
bickering began, but I understand.. You weren't saying you did
anything about ur craving for fried foods, just asking a question.
Which everyone does in this group. So, don't take what others say to
heart.. (but that was a bit mean..)

Welcome Lynn! You will find this group very informative and
friendly. I am alot like you with not having much wrong except
being overweight and having asthma. I do have joint pain, back pain
and honestly my surgeon included past family history as my current
problems too which included diabetes and hypertension. Together all
of this brought me to my surgery 9/7 and I am 8 day's out now. Hope
you find this a nice rollercoaster ride cause its got its ups and
downs but the ending is spectacular.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

I love chewing ice and have done so since a little kid. I was also
advised in another group that a desire to chew is also possibly be a
lack Iron because of a woman having the desire to crunch on
something.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

It was probably me saying I'd rather have another baby than go to
the dentist...LOL!!! I scringe just thinking of the sounds and
smells too.
Hugs, Linda in AL...preparing for Ivan

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Debbie,
Glad to hear the good news about your phsyc eval. Good luck on the rest of
tests, keep us posted ok? Keep your chin up and it will all fall into place.
Laurette
4/23/04 open rny
309/290/231/150
St. Vincent Charity
Cleveland, Ohio

I just wanted to let everyone know I had my phsyc eval and it went
great he approved me for getting the surgery. I'm sooooooo Happy
cause I was really worried he was gonna tell me I couldn't get
it cause I have bi polor ect... But everything went great I
have 3 more thing that gotta be done b4 I can see the surgen
I'm working hard to get them done
Love Debbie

Hi Holly,
Congratulations on your wonderful weight loss. You've done a great job and
can't wait til I can say I'm almost to goal. As far as ice chewing, I have a
friend who is 3 years out from surgery and she chews ice constantly. I've
known her to go through a bag of ice a day at times. I don't think there's
anything wrong with it. I too love chewing on ice, have since I was a little
kid.
Laurette
4/23/04 open rny
309/290/231/150
St. Vincent Charity
Cleveland, Ohio

Hi Everyone...I have only posted on here once, but have been reading
the posts for almost a year now. I had my surgery on October 3rd,
2003, and have lost almost 90 pounds and am almost to my goal, so I
am happy with that. I have a bizarre question....I am addicted to
chewing ice now. I have always liked ice, but now it's almost an
obsession...I am constantly chewing ice. Has anyone else
experienced this, or am I just being strange on my own! I'd
appreciate your input.
Thanks,
Holly

I think part of it is our new way of thinking and
trying to find recipes that are high in protein, low
in calories, etc. I try new recipes myself. Love
them!

Like i said it is only an opinion no biggy really....smiles
Shirley Weber <gmshirley@...
i ever had the surgery.. we just get bored with our way of cooking and like to
see that there is other ways to do it and also it is sometimes better than what
is on the other Chanel's ,, i am not morning the lose of eating, i still eat
just less and i would like it to taste better now that i can on,y eat a tiny bit
take care
Shirley
brooke sheilds <bbwstrumpette@...
Well want to know honestly what it is called ladies? Why you are watching
cooking shows all of a sudden? It is called mourning your lover your best friend
your you have suffered a loss which is the food. Once we have the surgery we can
no longer turn to our lover for comfort so we mourn ( sp) i am sure im spelling
this wrong and of course this opinion could be wrong. But i know i have done
this many times myself on regular diets. Or just sitting here alone when i had
no one here to keep me company or i was sad or broken hearted. But again this is
just my opinion.
Denise in NJ.
Shirley Weber wrote:
i look up recipes on the net and watch the cook shows my son says he dosen't
understand that i can't eat so why am i watching the cook shows says it's self
torcher.. i like to see how to cook different things and use the spices is all
shirley
Maggie Cline wrote:Hi, all: I share Linda Lou's comments. I am 6 days out and
all of a sudden
I am reading cookbooks. What's up with that?
Maggie

If you are having pre-op testing.. I had mine done on Friday.. All
it consists of is taking more blood (CBC and Pregnancy Test) and
possibly an EKG if you haven't had one done.. Also, talking to your
anesthesiologist.. But who knows, might differ with each
patient/surgeon.
Alana

i watched the cooking show before i ever had the surgery.. we just get bored
with our way of cooking and like to see that there is other ways to do it and
also it is sometimes better than what is on the other Chanel's ,, i am not
morning the lose of eating, i still eat just less and i would like it to taste
better now that i can on,y eat a tiny bit
take care
Shirley
brooke sheilds <bbwstrumpette@...
Well want to know honestly what it is called ladies? Why you are watching
cooking shows all of a sudden? It is called mourning your lover your best friend
your you have suffered a loss which is the food. Once we have the surgery we can
no longer turn to our lover for comfort so we mourn ( sp) i am sure im spelling
this wrong and of course this opinion could be wrong. But i know i have done
this many times myself on regular diets. Or just sitting here alone when i had
no one here to keep me company or i was sad or broken hearted. But again this is
just my opinion.
Denise in NJ.
Shirley Weber wrote:
i look up recipes on the net and watch the cook shows my son says he dosen't
understand that i can't eat so why am i watching the cook shows says it's self
torcher.. i like to see how to cook different things and use the spices is all
shirley
Maggie Cline wrote:Hi, all: I share Linda Lou's comments. I am 6 days out and
all of a sudden
I am reading cookbooks. What's up with that?
Maggie

Yep could be that to Maryanne smiles i am all for things tasting good when it is
such a small amount (smiles)
millasandra <millasandra@...
on it. We are no longer
driven to eat and now we are more interested in making the small
amount we can eat taste good. She said it is very common for folks
with gastric surgery to begin to want gourmet type food.
I don't know, but I have always watched the programs with very little
urge to eat or make most of the recipes. Loved Martha Stewart - I
just wanted to see how complicated you could make your life. I sure
wasn't going to make little herb bundles tied with green onion tops
to butter my corn on the cob or make and decorate 300 cookies for
my 'entry way' christmas tree, but loved to watch someone else do it.
Maryanne

http://rouxny.com/
not sure if anyone knows about this site but i ran across it just
now.
Denise.

I just had my testing this last Tuesday. All they did for me was check
weight & blood pressure. Talked to me about the anethesia, did an EKG
which took about 30 seconds once they hooked all the electrodes to me.
And took blood. That was it. Nothing to worry about.

The same thing happened when I first tried scrambled eggs and cannot
tolerate them any longer and they were my favorite breakfast. Felt
like lead for hours and I maybe ate 1/2 tsp of them. Try chopping
the chicken very finely and I was warned from overcooking my protein
as it gets very tough and hard to digest. Maybe next time cut the
breast in thin strips that cook quickly and then chop finely.
Maryanne

Was someone talking about the dentist yesterday? I
had a filling fall out of my tooth last night and just
got back from having it bonded. I hate the shot worse
than the drilling. It's funny how I was more scared
of the dentist than the Doctor that did my endoscopy
last week. It seem like with age I just become more
of a wuss......

Vicki, How far out are you? Did your doctor include chicken in the soft
foods diet? Did you check the sugar content on the bbq sauce?
--
Carrie Sagel Burns
Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-83 lbs.)
348/265/140 (begin/current/goal)
carrie@... - www.carrieburns.net

Hi,
I had a bad evening last night. I am just starting my soft food
stage. and decided to try some chicken. I boiled it and my hubby put
it on the grill ( after removing the skin) to add a little bar b gue
sauce.. nothing spicy. well I took a few small bites , chewed very
well and it felt like Led when it hit my pouche. I think I was
eating slow enough. But I thought I was going to barf. I kept
burpping up suds.. looked like dishsoap bubbles.. can anyone tell me
what happened? am I doomed to not eat chicken?
thanks for the help
Vicki
298/266/???

My surgery will be Sept. 22nd... Only 8 more days! Im excited and nerveous! I go
Thursday for my post-op testing at Baptist Hospitol if any of you know what all
testing they do would you please tell me? Thanks

are you allowed to chew gum?

Im "preparing" for surgery or so my insurance calls it. I have to
lose yet another "10 pounds" drink some protien drinks and exercise
for 15 min without tiring.. WHY is she writing all this you ask?
well How do i make the protien shake taste better, how do i exercise
for 15 without being tired since i have arthritis in every joint
possible LOL and well therefore how the heck do I lose another 10
pounds LOL.. Ive already lost 65 LOL
If anyone can help i would love it!
Angela

I hope you do better---kinda scary and that crunch thing worries me...
i like to crunch..worried about "texture"

Glad I can help out. Humor and all too...LOL!!!
Hugs, Linda

I agree Laurette thank you Dora!
Denise.
Babydollbbw3@... wrote:
i think the calendar is a great idea. would be nice to have surgery dates
and maybe birthday/anniversaries too so we can send cards or best wishes.
laurette
4/23/04 open rny
309/290/231/150
St. Vincent Charity
Cleveland, Ohio

Well want to know honestly what it is called ladies? Why you are watching
cooking shows all of a sudden? It is called mourning your lover your best friend
your you have suffered a loss which is the food. Once we have the surgery we
can no longer turn to our lover for comfort so we mourn ( sp) i am sure im
spelling this wrong and of course this opinion could be wrong. But i know i have
done this many times myself on regular diets. Or just sitting here alone when i
had no one here to keep me company or i was sad or broken hearted. But again
this is just my opinion.
Denise in NJ.
Shirley Weber <gmshirley@...
i look up recipes on the net and watch the cook shows my son says he dosen't
understand that i can't eat so why am i watching the cook shows says it's self
torcher.. i like to see how to cook different things and use the spices is all
shirley
Maggie Cline <m1cline@...
I am 6 days out and all of a sudden
I am reading cookbooks. What's up with that?
Maggie

Maybe something to coat your belly i dont know anything really Mary but sounds
like alot of air in there. Just trying to be helpful .... sorry if i sound dumb.
Denise.
"Mary S." <Nursemary@...
I am six weeks post op RNY, yesterday I was so busy at work that I
didn't get to eat every 2 hours. Six hours pasted before I finally
got to eat and since them I haven't been able to keep anything down.
No pain, just alot of feeling as though I need to burp. Nothing stays
down and when it does come up...it is all foamy (sorry, I know that
is gross). I keep trying to anything and everything, hoping something
will stay down. No Luck. Any ideas on what I can do to get past this?
This is not very comfortable. Thanks. Mary

Hugss Linda arent we all special Linda gal?
Linda Lou <iamllu@...
What you wrote was so "right on target" since I have only just
crossed over to the other side one week ago it all is so true. This
group has helped me with knowledge and friendship. What more can we
ask for... By the way, I think your my long lost twin...heehee!!!
We are so much alike or is it that dang redhair thing again??? Just
remember this and I've said it before to several...what we write
down might not be what our brains wanted to say and it can be
received as a negative comment when it wasn't meant to be taken that
way. Your a pretty special lady!!!
Big hugs from this big chair, Linda

I am six weeks post op RNY, yesterday I was so busy at work that I
didn't get to eat every 2 hours. Six hours pasted before I finally
got to eat and since them I haven't been able to keep anything down.
No pain, just alot of feeling as though I need to burp. Nothing stays
down and when it does come up...it is all foamy (sorry, I know that
is gross). I keep trying to anything and everything, hoping something
will stay down. No Luck. Any ideas on what I can do to get past this?
This is not very comfortable. Thanks. Mary

i look up recipes on the net and watch the cook shows my son says he dosen't
understand that i can't eat so why am i watching the cook shows says it's self
torcher.. i like to see how to cook different things and use the spices is all
shirley
Maggie Cline <m1cline@...
I am 6 days out and all of a sudden
I am reading cookbooks. What's up with that?
Maggie

Linda, I remember wanting that crunch so bad those first few weeks. I must
have gone through trays and trays of ice cubes and popsicles...lol
laurette
4/23/04 open rny
309/290/231/150
St. Vincent Charity
Cleveland, Ohio

Hi, all: I share Linda Lou's comments. I am 6 days out and all of a sudden
I am reading cookbooks. What's up with that?
Maggie

Monica Minjares, October 14, 2004 !!!!

Cheryl,
Wow, that is interesting. I am sure that you don't think so. Well
thank God that they found you some sort of answer. It might not be the
easiest thing to deal with but at least you know where to go from here.
I am sure that the nutrionist will be able to work something out that
will work for you. I pray that you solution is coming soon.
Dora in Tennessee
Open/Lap RNY 9/20/04
Vanderbilt Hospital

I sent an earlier email with that question, but since I did not get a
response I thought it wasn't possible. That is why I resorted to this.
Just wanting to stay on top of it. :)
Dora

i think the calendar is a great idea. would be nice to have surgery dates
and maybe birthday/anniversaries too so we can send cards or best wishes.
laurette
4/23/04 open rny
309/290/231/150
St. Vincent Charity
Cleveland, Ohio

Thanks for the information Laurette. I am looking forward to my
soft food phase NOW...lol!!! Give me flavor and texture
please...okay I know I am only 7 day's out but dang I need it.
Hugs, Linda

Cheryl,
Thanks for the update!! I have never heard of this since doing all
of my research prior to surgery. This is quite interesting and I
like to hear what type of diet you are put on my the nutritionist.
Were you still trying to eat/drink the protein, fats, vegetables,
starch or condensed carbs including milk products? Did you have
diabetes before surgery? I pray they can find you something to eat
that will be nourishing and good.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

Hey Dora I just checked and we can have them on the calendar for the
group to the left...our left. I think it would be a benefit to all
of us to utilize this for all kinds of things for us to remember.
Why not let us try this too.
Hugs, Linda

I just came back from the clinic. He told me after running more
tests (i am a human pin cushion at the lab) I have the opposite of
dumping syndrome. My body will only tolorate simple sugars. (ie
sugarfree popcycles, jello, anything sweet) I can not eat protein or
fats or vegitables or starch or condensed carbs. I cannot drink milk
products etc... Everything but sugar puts me into pain. Now the
problem comes in finding me a diet that I can tolorate. I have to
see the nutritionist again to help me come up with something to
replace all my nutrients without milk and something that contains
sugar. I would never of dreamed being told is all I can eat is
sugar. I weighed in at 145 today which is not good because I was 150
three days ago. I am losing to much too close to my limit. I am 5'6
and my weight for height is 125-149. I am no longer in the
overweight section on the chart!!!!! But losing too much to fast can
cause me to go way under the limit. Wish me luck and hope everyone
is having a good Tuesday. I am in Fayetteville, NC if anyone in the
area needs a close by friend to help them through this. Thanks for
listening.
Cheryl

Maryane,
Thanks for the tidbit of news. I have been wondering about what you
wrote and was going to ask on Friday my first visit since surgery on
the 7th. I have to admit I am craving flavor and try different
things in my mashed potato's...all 2 tbsp's of it.;-) By the way,
your progress is outstanding!
Hugs, Linda in AL.

hugss Dora soon will be your new life change so i will be thinking of you.
Denise.
Dora McCary <dora.mccary@...
Brooke,
Thank you for that. What you expressed is exactly how I feel. I think
we are all in the same place, have been in that place or will be in that
place soon. I too look at food as a friend, companion, the whole nine
yards. And up until now my fat has been to a point my protector.
Together, we will get through this. Thank you again. Get on your soap
box anytime.
Dora in Tennessee
Open/Lap RNY 9/20/04
Vanderbilt Hospital

Can everyone who has a surgery date already set email them to this
group. I have been trying to track them and have gotten behind in my
own surgery preparations. I would like to have them on my calendar so
that I can know who is needing specific surgery prayer or just well
wishes that day. Thanks, I don't want to forget anyones date. I know
how important mine is to me and I know yours is to you as well.
Thank you,
Dora in Tennessee
Open/Lap RNY 9/20/04
Vanderbilt Hospital

Hey Dora,
Try this

Brooke,
Thank you for that. What you expressed is exactly how I feel. I think
we are all in the same place, have been in that place or will be in that
place soon. I too look at food as a friend, companion, the whole nine
yards. And up until now my fat has been to a point my protector.
Together, we will get through this. Thank you again. Get on your soap
box anytime.
Dora in Tennessee
Open/Lap RNY 9/20/04
Vanderbilt Hospital

I have been trying to track them all too, but I have gotten behind in my
own preparations. I don't want to forget anyones date. I know that it
would make everyone feel better if we are checking on them without them
having to tell us it is their date. I have an idea... look for my next
post...

Went in for my 6 week checkup and I had lost 36.8 pounds so far! I
also had a question that has been bothering me answered. For the
next 6 weeks we get instructions to eat protein and veggies at each
meal still 1 ounce cups to begin and add a bite more at each meal if
we can without being uncomfortable and at 5 weeks or see do
the 'cottage cheese' test to see what the volume of the stomach is.
I could not figure it out, why test the volume of the stomach if I am
only eating 1 ounce or so at a meal. Then they explained it to me
that our body is busy enlarging our pouches regardless of how much we
put into them, we cannot stretch them too far by eating too much,
but we can certainly make ourselves sick by eating too much. Or we
can damage the outlet. My doctor hopes for pouches 6 - 9 ounces at 2
years and the weight loss is the same regardless of the size of the
pouch at 2 years. He says pouches between 6 - 9 ounces allow a diet
with more choices than one that stopped at 3 1/2 ounces, but it is up
to what our bodies decide not us.
Maryane

Hey Dora,
Seems like time has flown for you and your day is upon us. I had a
list of "the families" dates of surgery and it must have grown wings
and flew away. Good luck and we will be praying for you.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

Personally for me i don't take anything you all say personally to each other but
what i do take seriously is my life. I am trying to learn new life coping skills
before i get my surgery not after i get my surgery . I am learning through you
ladies here the ones who have had the surgery are very benefical to me. The
ones who haven't had are as well because we are going through the same emotions
the changes the overwhelmings and the loses of a lover which is the food . Which
for me and i am speaking for me at 1 time was my lover , best friend and
confidant (sp).So you see i am sort of going into a mourning stage because i
have to give all old behaviors and not that i really have to but i want too. and
i hate when someone tells me i have too or i say to myself i can't because i
am rebellious my nature and so my brain automatically tells me. Oh you want to
bet you can do anything you want to and immediately i go the opposite direction.
So what i am trying to say here is i am
greatful that i have you all your all a wonderful bunch of ladies and really so
smart and such strong indivduals in your own rights. What ever it is that
brought you to this point in your life made you who you are today. Dont take
things so personal that you hold grudges they take way to much energy. and look
how far you have come. Ok now i will get off my soap box and back on my little
chair ok big chair (giggles) i am just trying to be helpful if i offended anyone
i am sorry.
In care always,
Denise in NJ.
Patty Schroeder <thumper2252@...
Amy,
I totally agree about dropping it, I do not post here much, I do get pretty
postive responces when i do , i hope this does not discouarge you from asking if
you have any more questions , usually there is someone else with that same
question or someone else who did not think of the same question. I am learning
alot from this group. I am counting on them for info after my surgery (Oct 6th).
But I am glad to see you decided to stay with the group so far:)
Patty S
Have a great day!
Patty Schroeder

Amy,
I totally agree about dropping it, I do not post here much, I do get pretty
postive responces when i do , i hope this does not discouarge you from asking if
you have any more questions , usually there is someone else with that same
question or someone else who did not think of the same question. I am learning
alot from this group. I am counting on them for info after my surgery (Oct 6th).
But I am glad to see you decided to stay with the group so far:)
Patty S
Have a great day!
Patty Schroeder

Just a question? Would you or would you not get offended if someone came out
and told you that they didnt feel like you were using the surgery as a tool? I
took that offensively for one reason only..... that is because if you read my
post, it assk a question and also states i havent eaten any yet... that was my
whole purpose of posting the question in order to get some advice because i
didnt want to try it if someone else has and had problems... I myself like KIM
havent had anything fried, and I dont eat sweets, or anything bad for me, i just
had a question and was hoping for advice from this group not a judgement against
me... i asked a question, i didnt run out and eat a bucket of fried chicken, and
i just didnt apppreciate her saying she didnt think i was using the surgery as a
tool... Now, i only posted one or two responses to it, and it has turned into a
RAY situation.. Can we just drop it, its over, and done wwith , now lets move
on...
amy
mydadsbuddy <4cupz@...
Yes I am new here and haven't got a surgery date yet, but one thing I
can say is that this stuff happens at most boards, (unfortunately)
one thing I have seen work is that the "bickering" is deleted and if
2 or more members have real "issues" they start an E-mail with all
involved and don't hang the dirty laundry out to effect EVERYONE.
If it's ignored it tends to lessen! Yet being a support board there
will be certain members who need extra TLC from time to time. I hope
no one leaves the board and in time I am sure everyone will realize,
the post was seen as a boulder to some and a pebble to others and if
that's understood it makes it easier.
Keep up all the good work guys
~v

Very well said v. I think as humans we just are a little more sensitive
at imes and a little less sensitive at times. It just depends on what
day it hits us. And the written word never conveys the same meaning as
if it were being said in person. Just always try to think the best
until you determine the true meaning of something. And sometimes I
think that some of us need more attention that day than our messages
convey and we get upset when we don't get it or get the wrong kind of
response. It is not because the others don't care, it is because they
don't read our true need in our message. Not saying that is what
happened with this post, just speaking from myself. We all have our bad
and good days. But for the most part we are a great group that I would
hate to see fall apart. I know I need you guys.
Dora in Tennessee
Open/Lap RNY 9/20/04
Vanderbilt Hospital

Hey Joyce,
Wow...what great new's. I totally understand those butterfly's but
just think...that is such a great flutter!! Who is your surgeon? I
am the one who wrote you that I am formally from San Antonio, born
and raised, been gone almost 3 yrs but still call it home. I'd like

Thanks for the welcome. I remember before my surgery that I couldnt
wait until my day came. So hang in there It will be before you know
it.
Cheryl

Hi Cheryl welcome i hope someone can help you me i know nothing since i did not
have the surgery yet. I am just a person here that takes up space with no life
trying to make ppl laff. Who needs typing lessons and spelling lessons so i hope
you feel better soon i know that you hear that alot but thats the best i can do.
Denise in NJ.
lhsbutterflygirl <lhsbutterflygirl@...
Hi my name is Cheryl and I had the surgery on January 13,2003. I was
300 lbs when it was done and I am down to 150. A whole person lol.
Anyways, I have been struggling lately and I need to talk with
someone who might of had something like I am going through now. I go
into severe pain everytime I eat. Almost like dumping syndrome, but
much more severe. I cant even drink water sometimes it hurts to bad.
I need support to help me eat and uplift my spirits because I am
having a hard time. I am in the course of med-school so I can do the
surgery to help people but I am withering away literaly. It is hard
to go to school with no energy. The doctors are working on me and
hopefully will find a cure. I have already spent months in the
hospital rehydrating. Anyways, they dont have a clue. Hope someone
can shed some light or at least make me laugh again.
Cheryl

Wow lucky you Joyce gawd i wish my dr would call and say you got a date even tho
you didnt get this tests done yet.
Denise.
Joyce <joycetatsch@...
Hello everyone...
I posted last week that I was new to the group and was scheduled for
surgery on Oct 7th. I got a call from my doctor's office this
morning and they have moved me to Sep 23rd. NEXT THURSDAY!
I wasn't nervous until I looked at the calendar and realized that it
is so close! I'm really excited as well, but now I've got
butterflies in my stomach thinking about how close I am to a better
lifestyle!

Hi my name is Cheryl and I had the surgery on January 13,2003. I was
300 lbs when it was done and I am down to 150. A whole person lol.
Anyways, I have been struggling lately and I need to talk with
someone who might of had something like I am going through now. I go
into severe pain everytime I eat. Almost like dumping syndrome, but
much more severe. I cant even drink water sometimes it hurts to bad.
I need support to help me eat and uplift my spirits because I am
having a hard time. I am in the course of med-school so I can do the
surgery to help people but I am withering away literaly. It is hard
to go to school with no energy. The doctors are working on me and
hopefully will find a cure. I have already spent months in the
hospital rehydrating. Anyways, they dont have a clue. Hope someone
can shed some light or at least make me laugh again.
Cheryl

they didn't give me a choice with my first,,,,,,,,I guess cause I was so
young,,,,,,,,,but when I realised that I couldn't feel my leggs ...I
paniced..........and when they asked me if I wanted it with my last two,,,,,,,I
turned it down cold turkey !!!!! and it was the best thing I'd ever
done.......not so sure about it being a red headed thing,,,,,,,,,I've alwayz
heard that us girl with big hips spit dem babies out without any
problems....LOL...
Deitra

Hello everyone...
I posted last week that I was new to the group and was scheduled for
surgery on Oct 7th. I got a call from my doctor's office this
morning and they have moved me to Sep 23rd. NEXT THURSDAY!
I wasn't nervous until I looked at the calendar and realized that it
is so close! I'm really excited as well, but now I've got
butterflies in my stomach thinking about how close I am to a better
lifestyle!

Hey Denise, I agree but it seems it keeps happening over and over.
We can only pray this group can stay together and get on with life.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

Must be a redhead thing...LOL!!! Only thing different...I popped my
kid out without any meds...LOL!!! 8lbs 2 1/2ozs, 19" with a BIG
head.
Hugs, Linda in Al.

Thanks, I was feeling pretty good on Friday and tried a bread stick,
I learned my lesson, was sick three times until everything came back
up.
A wiser
Pat in RI

Tell me about it Ella,
I had an endoscopy last Tuesday and my throat was
really sore. It should be better in a couple of days.
I'm glad it was a good report.
Kristy

Linda,
That sounds good - I want the recipe. Thanks Ella
Linda Lou <iamllu@...
Hey Amy,
Listen I understand where everyone is coming from and don't you
think your the only one...LOL!!! I am only out 6 days and dreaming
of this and that. On another wls message board I am on they used
crushed pork rinds and roll the chicken into and bake. Suppose to
make you feel like your eating "fried chicken". Hope this might
help you cause I plan on trying it someday.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

Well, I had the endoscopy today - I was under the impression I would
be out - NOT. I was awake for the whole thing and alert. He did
give me demerol and something else. My throat is really really
sore. Good news - he didn't find anything - said "my insides are
great for someone my age" He thinks something may have been stuck
but has resolved itself.
Ella

Linda you are so right about that.........all 3 of my kids were big
babies,,,,,my first was 9 lbs 13 oz,,,they gave me the epidural with him but
the other 2 were 8lbs 10ozs and 9lbs 5ozs,,,,I didn't have anything with either
of the last two,,,,,,and it was a breeze,,,,,,I'm like you ,,,,,stay out of my
mouth,,,,,,,,I can't deal with that........dang dentist take a chance on getting
hurt when I have to go,,,they usually give me something to drink to relax me
off.......yea I know ...I'ma big baby....LOL
Deitra

Congratulations.. I'm the 21st at 6:30am.. :)

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of Gastric_Bypass_Family
Weekly Group Chat!!
Monday September 13, 2004
7:00 pm - 10:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Notes:

I am so computer illiterate that it is not funny. Is there anyway to
set up a calendar within this group so that we could keep track of
everyone having surgery. So that we could look at it and remember who
is in the hospital when? Is that possible? I would love to have that
to look at to remember everyone's dates.
Dora in Tennessee
Open/Lap RNY 9/20/04
Vanderbilt Hospital

I don't like most of the protein shakes cause the most common ones
are milk based and I DISLIKE milk - hate is closer to the real
emotion with milk. After my surgery I was trying to gag down
protein drinks with added protein powder and I was eating them so
fast to get them down it was making me sick. I found fruit juice
flavored protein drinks, Nectar Harvey Wallbanger and Strawberry Kiwi
are what I have now, but from looking there are other brands out
there too. Anyway these give you protein but are not milk based, I
think you could find something very similar to these at GNC or a
local low carb store maybe if you don't want to order them online.
By the way my husband who likes milk just loves the Extreme Smoothie
Chocolate Dream and Praline Scream protein drinks, they are spendy
but have 35 gr of protein per can.
Maryanne

That¹s so fabulous Barbie, and your energy for it is great!!!! I know that
you and everyone else who has their surgeries coming up are going to do so
wonderful! I can just feel it, you¹ll all be on the other side and feeling
great in no time!
--
Carrie Sagel Burns
Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-83 lbs.)
348/265/140 (begin/current/goal)
carrie@... - www.carrieburns.net

CONGRATS!!! I am on the 20th at 12:30. We will be loosers together. I
will be praying for you.
Dora in Tennessee
Open/Lap RNY 9/20/04
Vanderbilt Hospital

IM SO EXCITED!!! CONSULT IS THURSDAY AND SURGERY WILL BE THE 22nd AT 7:30AM
!!Please include me in your prayers! IM GONNA BE A LOSER!!!!!WOOOOHOOOO!!!

Linda i had a trama dentist too dont feel alone, but dang it i want pearl whites
also. So when i go on a date and i am flirting and smiling away i look oh so
gorgeous yanno....hehe.
Denise.
Linda Lou <iamllu@...
I became obsessive with toothpaste for a good bit and used two, one
for to prevent cavities and the other to whiten my teeth. I have
the type of teeth that break off/crack. I have three now that need
to be "dug" up and out. Shoot my Mom insisted on the "clown nose"
for me...loveable laughing gas!!! Thank goodness she got me to a
children's dentist after my horrible experience with that friggin
ol' first dentist.
Linda in AL.

Have you tried Sugarfree Carnation Instant Breakfast? My nutritionist
told me to even add powdered milk to the mixture to add additional
protein to it as well. The Instant Breakfast on its own does not have
as much protein as most shakes but with the added powdered milk it
really pushes it up there. Just a thought. And have you tried the
Isopure? They are not great but they are the best that I have found so
far. There is also the Unjury protein powder that I have been told has
no flavor and you can add to whatever you want. Hope this helps.
Dora in Tennessee
Open/Lap RNY 9/20/04
Vanderbilt Hospital

How should I be eating at 6weeks. Meaning should I be eating more
than a few bites of food, I am still have no appitite for food.
Thursday will be 6 weeks for me and weighed last week I was down 41
pounds feel good but still I know I am not getting in my correct
protein and this scares me because I can still only eat about 3 or 4
bites if I stretch it of any fool and still I have not found no
protein shakes or juices or anything that I can take. I tried to
just do the protein thing cause I know I needed it but I gaged like
mad on the stuff. I ask my pharmacy and they say Ensure, ok bought
it and loved it but it made me feel like the slim fast low carb did
like I was having a diabetic attack. Then I read online that Ensure
we should not drink. I am so depressed and hating myself cause I
just cannot tolerate something that I really need. I go back to the
doctor on the 20th so I going to ask my doctor if there is any pills
to help me out, cause I feel if I can't get the protein I need then
I not going to make it. Like I said in one post I do get in some
bites like from egg, fish, chicken, thats about all I eat bites of.
I do eat bake fish, but I have it fried sometime with canola oil. I
am just scared since I am protein drink and shake intolerable.

Hey Amy,
Listen I understand where everyone is coming from and don't you
think your the only one...LOL!!! I am only out 6 days and dreaming
of this and that. On another wls message board I am on they used
crushed pork rinds and roll the chicken into and bake. Suppose to
make you feel like your eating "fried chicken". Hope this might
help you cause I plan on trying it someday.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

I'm soo happy for you! I can't wait till the day comes when I can
start riding again and not feel like an elephant riding a baby
bike.. (sorry) 8 more days to go for me..
Alana

I see this one Denise.
--
Carrie Sagel Burns
Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-83 lbs.)
348/265/140 (begin/current/goal)
carrie@... - www.carrieburns.net

Hee hee...I think I am or its just my imagination...LOL!!!
Hugs, Linda

I am wondering if everyone is seeing my posts?
Denise.

Hey Tina,
Thanks for sharing your pics. I have to say your doing so well and
you can surely see the changes. Plus your very pretty!!! But ya
know those guy's in the pic's are very handsome bunch too! I must
be having a blonde moment cause I have a photo file but can't seem
to get my photo's in it...LOL!!!!
Take care, Linda in AL.

I can understand your bitterness but our Mom's have a way of putting
their feet in their mouth's just like we can. Hope you can get past
this and prepare for your big day.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

Thanks Fran!!! And I am enjoying every minute. Your day is coming,
I just heard them call your name out! Good luck and you'll be here
too soon.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

Sometimes ppl dont think b4 they speak not always meaning to hurt.
veecheer@... wrote:Yesterday while my Mom discussed my cousin's tummy tuck
she made a
comment something to the effect of "OH since your taking the easy way
out she wants to do that too" I was soooooo hurt and couldn't
believe outta all the people in the world I never thought she would
say that crap. Anywhoo it ended up badly and feelings were hurt when
I told her to shut up because she had fucked up. She shut up.
Arrrgh.

Dora i will be thinking of you!
Denise.
Dora McCary <dora.mccary@...
Linda Lou,
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. I don't have my
computer at home hooked up yet. But thanks for the well wishes. This
is all a lot deeper than most people on the outside think. Together, we
will make it through this. Just 1 week till my surgery!!!
Dora

Hi Catherine,
I ditto what Carrie said, I just had surgery on the 7th and I was
also leary and scared about having all those tubes in me. I didn't
have anything in me except for the drain and the IV when I woke back
up. Are you having your surgery open or Laproscopic? Mine was Lap
and I am back basically to being normal...which is surprising all my
family. By the way, I wanted to welcome you to this group of such
informative and helpful people who will help you with just about
anything.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

Id rather do none actually been there done that no more! Hey Linda quess what i
am making progress i dropped my psych eval off today. So i guess some progress
is better then none huh.Have a great day my friend in Alabamie.
Denise in joisey.
Linda Lou <iamllu@...
Sorry little late but not sorry...LOL!!! I'd rather give birth than
have any dentist go into my mouth and do anything. Yikes!!!! You
little stinker!!!!

Tina,
Congrats on your accomplishments so far you are doing great!!!!! Keep up the
good work.
Some of my accomplishments and being 4-1/2 months out from surgery.
1. Off ALL meds....bp, celebrex, previcid, benytl, lexapro
2. Off CPAP machine for sleep apnea
3. Moved the car seat up three notches (I'm only 4'11"....lol)
4. Down 3 clothes sizes, started at 30/32 and down to 22/24 and almost into
18/20.
5. Can cross my legs
6. Can walk and climb stairs without losing my breath and having to stop
every few feet
7. Can cross my arms behind by back when my hands wouldn't hardly touch
before surgery.
The list can go on and on. I never thought I would be doing any of these
things again, before this surgery. This surgery has given me a new chance on
life, a long healthier life. Would love to hear other's accomplishments too.
Everyone have a wonderful blessed day.
Laurette
4/23/04 open rny
309/290/231/150
St. Vincent Charity
Cleveland, Ohio

Linda Lou,
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. I don't have my
computer at home hooked up yet. But thanks for the well wishes. This
is all a lot deeper than most people on the outside think. Together, we
will make it through this. Just 1 week till my surgery!!!
Dora

Okay everyone. I am sitting here thinking about how my weightloss
has changed my life so far (and I still have 100 pounds to go). But
I wanted to post some accomplishments and wanted some other inputs
to encourage our new members waiting for surgery.
1. I can walk up my flight of steps in the house w/o getting winded.
2. I can move the seat in the car up two spaces and still have room
before my belly hits the steering wheel.
3. I can wear all these clothes that I have had all these years
and "grew out of too fast"
4. I can ride my bike 1/4 mile with my son and he has to keep up
with me!!
Come on guys and gals. Give me your input!! Have a great Monday!!
Tina
open rny 7/6/04
319/259/159

Yesterday while my Mom discussed my cousin's tummy tuck she made a
comment something to the effect of "OH since your taking the easy way
out she wants to do that too" I was soooooo hurt and couldn't
believe outta all the people in the world I never thought she would
say that crap. Anywhoo it ended up badly and feelings were hurt when
I told her to shut up because she had fucked up. She shut up.
Arrrgh.

Hey Pat,
Sounds like your doing great in the short time you've been home. I
wish you continued success with your lost pounds that you should
never find them again.
I can't wait to join you on the losing side.
Fran (From New Jersey)

Linda,
Welcome home and keep up the good work...your now on the losing
side, can't wait to join you.
Hugs,
Fran

Catherine, Congrats and best of luck on your upcoming surgery. I will try to
be as much help as I can with your questions. I¹¹m working on a WLS workbook
and on getting the Q&A section of my website going, but obesityhelp.com can
also be a great source of info.
1. Here¹s a great site for checking your weight loss at different
monthly/yearly intervals. It¹s for the Mini-GB, but has been very accurate
for my loss, some will be higher some lower, everyone¹s different, but this
seems to help in some regard: http://clos.net/predict-wt-loss.htm
2. Everything was placed and removed while I was under and there were no
complications so I can¹t help you there. I was very nervous about all of
that as well, but to come out of surgery and have everything gone was a
welcome surprise.
Best of luck with the sleep study results and keep us all posted on your
surgery.
--
Carrie Sagel Burns
Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-83 lbs.)
348/265/140 (begin/current/goal)
carrie@... - www.carrieburns.net

Hello there.
My name is Catherine from Rochester, NY. I started the WLS procedure
in 08/03. I have been there pysch., nutrition, group therapy,
numerous blood workups, chest Xrays, EKG and more.
My surgery is scheduled for 9/22 at Highland Hospital. My insurance
company has approved the WLS procedure.
I have some questions and know that there are folks out there with
the answers.
1. I am 41 years old. My height is 5 feet 2 inches and weigh 345
lbs. How much weight loss will I realistic achieve?
2. I have heard that they will insert a catheter. I am uncomfortable
with that as I nervous about complications, if they really are any.
What has been others experiences?
Lastly, I will know on 9/14 my results of my sleep disorders clinic
sleepover.
Thanks so much.
Catherine

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. NOTHING DRIVES ME MORE CRAZY THATN TO HEAR
SOME ONE SAY THAT WLS IS THE EASY WAY OUR. I WORK WITH A GIRL WHO'S
SISTER IS LIKE A SIZE 28 AND IS GETTING AMRRIED NEXT YEAR WELL SHE
PURCHASED HER WEDDING DRESS A SIZE 18 BECAUSE SHE IS GOING TO HAVE
WLS. MIND YOU SHE HAS NOT DONE ANY PREPARTIONS FOR IT THIS IS JUST
HER PLAN. MY CO WORKER CAME AND TALKED TO ME BECAUSE SHE SAID THAT
HER SISTER HAS NOT DONE ANY TYPE OF DIETING OR EXERCISING SHE JUST
WANTS A QUICK FIX. I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO HER THAT I STILL HAVE TO
WATCH WHAT I EAT AND EXERCISE AND SHE SAID TO ME OH YOU REALLY HAVE
TO DO THAT STUFF I THOUGHT THE WEIGHT JUST CAME OFF. THEN ABOUT A
MONTH OR SO AGO I WAS WATCHING THIS PROGRAM WITH MY DAUGHTER ON MTV
IT WAS ABOUT THESE OVERWEIGHT PEOPLE AND THEIR DIFFERENT STRUGGLES
AND WHAT REALLY GOT ME WAS THIS 17 YEAR OLD KID WAS ON THERE EATING
MCDONLDS LIKE 3-4 TIMES A DAY, WOULD NOT GET UP AND EXERCISE JUST
ATE ALL SORTS OF JUNK FOOD ALL THE TIME AND WHEN HIS MOTHER WOULD
TALK TO HIM ABOUT CHANGING HIS EATING HABITS HE SAID I WILL AFTER I
HAVE THE WLS. AGAIN NOT DIETING OR EXERCISING TO TRIALS AND FAILURES
JUST I WILL HAVE WLS AND EVERYTHING WILL BE ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO
REACH THROUGH THE TV AND SHAKE THIS KID. I DID HOWEVER EMAIL MTV
WITH MY CONCERNS ON HOW SOME PEOPLE THINK OF WLS AND I ASKED THEM IF
THEY WOULD FORWARD MY EMAIL ADDRESS TO THAT KID BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE
TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT WLS, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THEM.
NORA
10-28-03
292/193/165
MICHIGAN
HURLEY COMPREHENSIVE WEIGHT LOSS CENTER

hehehe Linda giving birth is like pulling teeth.
Linda Lou <iamllu@...
too...LOL!!! My whole family is
in shock cause I am they type that a Dentist appt. will put me under
the weather for day's (guess its a bad childhood memory)! I always
told them I'd rather go through another childbirth than go to the
dentist...uuummm, now what do ya think of that one...LOL!!!
Hugs, Linda

Hi Maggie,
Glad to see your are doing good. I had mine the day before yours
and seems like we had same experiences. Wish you the best!
Hugs, Linda in AL.

Linda thanks so much. I just had dyed my hair the night before (my hairdresser
is going to shoot me) I couldnt stand the grays anymore. So now its called
Tropic, its pretty funky.
Kim
Linda Lou <iamllu@...
Kim,
You are so pretty!!! Its so great to see others before and after
pic's to give us all inspiration.
High five ya!!!
Hugs, Linda in AL.

Kim,
You are so pretty!!! Its so great to see others before and after
pic's to give us all inspiration.
High five ya!!!
Hugs, Linda in AL.

Bobbi,
I have read your post and wanted to suggest you go back to your
weeks after surgery and start over again but add Protein to your
diet also like Shakes instead of food for every meal. I just had
surgery last week and on my clear liquids now but can have little
bit of sf jello/puddings etc... I wish you would think clearly
about how far you've come and decide to start over and give it

If he truly loves YOU, he will love you no matter what size you are. My
boyfriend loves my DD's too, well now they're already just D's...lol, but it's
ME
he loves not my boobs. I'm sure your husband will feel the same way. I'm
always afraid my boyfriend won't love me through the sagging skin and losing
hair
bit but he keeps reassuring me he will always be there as he always has been.
I'll keep you in my prayers that all will work out for you too!! Hang in
there.
Laurette
4/23/04 open rny
309/290/231/150
St. Vincent Charity
Cleveland, Ohio

He should love you because you are YOU. Not because you are a *big
girl*.. Yes, he may like big breasts. (As many men do) He should be
proud of you for doing this, and happy that now he can live a longer
and healthier life with you as his beautiful wife!! :)
-Alana
P.S.- And if he doesn't.. Then SCREW HIM!!!

My husband has always been a BBW lover. He loves big women. He is
attracted to them. He is attracted to me and my 42DD breasts. I
wonder if he will still be happy with me and not go look for another
big woman after I lose all that weight. I will be half the woman he
wants. My breasts will probably go down to a B and I know he likes
big boobs. Please someone reasure me that he will still love me even
if I am half the person. UGH!!

I'm truly sorry that you are having to deal with all those negative people in
your life. As for your surgeon, first thing I would do is report his
behavior. Are there any other surgeon's in your area? Support groups? What about
other
patients of this surgeon, could you talk to any of them for support?
What about seeing a mental health professional? Someone outside of the
situation might be able to help.
I understand about the emotional eating problem. That is the thing that
worries me the most about myself when I'm post-op. Will I be able to deal with
stresses without using food as my crutch? I've been in therapy for about a year
just to help me with that very thing. I wanted to get a handle on it and learn
other ways to deal with problems before my surgery.
It's difficult enough to deal with all this stuff without the added pressure
of family who aren't supportive. Try not to be around them if they are
bringing you down. This is difficult but I've had to break relationships off
with
people who were always putting me down and always had negative comments. (this
included family members) Until they are willing to accept who I am and be more
supportive they aren't allowed around me.
Try to keep in mind that even though you have regained some weight you still
have lost a lot and that is a POSITIVE! Do you remember what you did in the
beginning to help you lose the pounds? Were you exercising, drinking water,
getting in protein? Try to get back to some of those things, even if it's a
little
at a time. Focus on the feelings you had when you were able to do things
again for the first time that you hadn't been able to do before the surgery.
I'd be happy to stay in touch with you if you'd like. I'm just an email away.
Focus on the good things..don't let stupid salespeople get stuck in your
head. We have the control of how we let others affect us.
Sincerely,
Dawn in Orlando
Pre-op
Surgery is 9/23/04
Husband Omar
Post-op
Surgery was 4/7/03
525/222/200

Debbie..I think that most people can't remember exact dates and 's
etc when it comes to this part of it. I just guesstimated when I
filled out the diet history form. Nobody questioned me.
Colleen
lap-rny 11/03/03
315/194

Thanks for sharing James and Pat also.
Denise.
james <hawgnutzsd@...
just incase any of you were wondering what i look like i have posted
a couple of pix and will add 1 or 2 right before my surgery(sept29)
and thanx to all of you that have done the same it's a great
motivator.

Vimpireaid,
I am by no means putting you down.. However I do have a ? for you....
Don't you get sick from eating these things? I haven't had my surgery yet
but I'm in the process alot of people that I have talked to say that you get
very very sick eating certain things or eating too much thats why I ask the
? I know now *I haven't had surgery yet) but now i sometimes eat things i
shouldn't well actully alot of rimes lIKE TODAY i HAD ALOT OF THINGS I
KNOW ARE A NO NO sorry didn't realize bout the caps and i don't feel like
typin everthing again. anyway I can't explain y I still eat these things
I think in a way it's cause i know after surgery i won't be able to have
them ever again but i don't know . I mean i am doing alot better then I
was b4 the process but I'm not doing well in my opinion. i haven't lost ne
weight actully gained some i'm uncomfortable and ready to change
Love Debbie

I just posted some preop pictures, now I must get one for my first
month.
Pat in RI

Thank you Alana, This poem is a riot!! I have to print it out!

Those are great Kim, trying to get my website updated with 5 months pics
this weekend :). You look adorable, love the necklace!
--
Carrie Sagel Burns
Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-83 lbs.)
348/265/140 (begin/current/goal)
carrie@... - www.carrieburns.net

Thanks Bethany! I haven¹t seen them yet, but I love Tang, found that Crystal
Light¹s Sunrise drink is just like it too. Will keep an eye out for the
CarbCountdown juices.
--
Carrie Sagel Burns
Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-83 lbs.)
348/265/140 (begin/current/goal)
carrie@... - www.carrieburns.net

You know you can put your 2 cents in any day of the week. And you are right on
so many things hun. Thats why I love you guys.
Hugs
Kim
Linda Lou <iamllu@...
Kim,
Then I don't feel so bad if your diet was similiar...LOL! I didn't
get any pops in the hospital but had bought some for home. Its not
on my diet but...I'm doing them anyway. Not often just one last
night. I've been ready old post and really sorry what you are going
through right now. I had pray'd before when you spoke of your
husband and feel like I need to do this again. I agree about
bringing them home too soon after a incident but Kim, we love these
men and sometimes we put aside what should be done to do what we
want done. I've caught my husband chatting with an old girlfriend.
I am letting him know it and if our marriage fells from my doing so
then I feel God didn't want us to last. I just have always felt
like you have to be upfront and honest about it all. Otherwise they
feel like they can get away with it all the time. Now in this email
I found from him to her...it was disturbing but he did state "I love
my wife and would never cheat on her". I know those words are just
that "words" but at least he said them. Well sorry if I am digging
up something over and done with but I just wanted to put in my .02.
Hugs, Linda in AL.

damm girl your looking good!!! ;)keep up the great work--- In

Hi everyone Here are some new pictures of me. Taken today being 9-11-2004. I